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		<title>By: Joy Livingwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy Livingwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Steve!

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Overall, I think NLP seems so ‘digital’. there are few Visual representations of models.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve made a few visual representations of models, and found them illuminating. Often they revealed information about the model that I didn&#039;t get from a verbal description.

Steve Andreas would like to see NLP patterns presented as demonstration videos, with follow-up, so other practitioners can (a) see and hear what the presented &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; does with clients, vs. what they &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; they do; (b) see and hear each client&#039;s response, and evaluate it for themselves; and (c) learn about the long-term effects (or lack of effects) that the client experiences after the intervention.

I like your jargon examples. Please &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; go on!

While I do find it useful to have one word that encompasses both remembering and imagining, &#039;transderivational search&#039; has got to be one of the worst pieces of jargon ever devised. Another example of NLP borrowing an obscure term from computing/cybernetics (or possibly psychology) rather than inventing clear terminology laypeople and practitioners can easily understand and remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Steve!</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Overall, I think NLP seems so ‘digital’. there are few Visual representations of models.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve made a few visual representations of models, and found them illuminating. Often they revealed information about the model that I didn&#8217;t get from a verbal description.</p>
<p>Steve Andreas would like to see NLP patterns presented as demonstration videos, with follow-up, so other practitioners can (a) see and hear what the presented <i>actually</i> does with clients, vs. what they <i>say</i> they do; (b) see and hear each client&#8217;s response, and evaluate it for themselves; and (c) learn about the long-term effects (or lack of effects) that the client experiences after the intervention.</p>
<p>I like your jargon examples. Please <i>do</i> go on!</p>
<p>While I do find it useful to have one word that encompasses both remembering and imagining, &#8216;transderivational search&#8217; has got to be one of the worst pieces of jargon ever devised. Another example of NLP borrowing an obscure term from computing/cybernetics (or possibly psychology) rather than inventing clear terminology laypeople and practitioners can easily understand and remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cowie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Cowie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nicely written article.

Overall, I think NLP seems so &#039;digital&#039;. there are few Visual representations of models.

Regarding Jargon:

&#039;Lesser included structures&#039; = a clause or sub-clause.  Why not call it that?

&#039;Trans-Derivational Search&#039; = Remembering or Imagining!

I could go on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nicely written article.</p>
<p>Overall, I think NLP seems so &#8216;digital&#8217;. there are few Visual representations of models.</p>
<p>Regarding Jargon:</p>
<p>&#8216;Lesser included structures&#8217; = a clause or sub-clause.  Why not call it that?</p>
<p>&#8216;Trans-Derivational Search&#8217; = Remembering or Imagining!</p>
<p>I could go on!</p>
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		<title>By: Sacred Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sacred Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the words that I found as difficult to describe to a client is &lt;strong&gt;Neuro Linguistic Programming&lt;/strong&gt;.

Programming is what is done to a non living electronics device such as a computer.

I use &lt;strong&gt;neuro logical language repatterning&lt;/strong&gt;.

Just as confusing? perhaps, although I do have better responses from clients as to what they think this means rather than the look of a deer in the path of an oncoming car.  

It seems difficult enough saying I am a hypnotherapist - that has produced fear in more clients than i would have expected.

I refer to my self as a facilitator, then include the comment “how can I be of assistance to you?

I ‘calibrate’ the response I receive and will ‘match &amp; mirror’ to be in ‘rapport’

So we can set up a linguistics class to teach perspective clients how to understanding NLP practitioner.  

Or perhaps even how to understand you physician of choice. 

Hmm, perhaps not, after all, the physician needs to offer the impression that he is well educated by the use of fancy words. ‘I believe you may either have IBS or acid reflux’  

I am glad back in the days I just had the stomach flu and not food poisoning {Mom?}

Are we not taught to embed uninteligable comands into their sub conscious mind?

Perhaps not, we do want our clients to understand what we are doing, at least consciously, 

Right?

Still having lunch on this one while I read a book on Quantum Mechanics to find out “Who did it”

The boson, the lepton,  the quark or that Higgs guy they are still looking for.

Guess I am just a mis-matcher after all

‘Sacred Reality’</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the words that I found as difficult to describe to a client is <strong>Neuro Linguistic Programming</strong>.</p>
<p>Programming is what is done to a non living electronics device such as a computer.</p>
<p>I use <strong>neuro logical language repatterning</strong>.</p>
<p>Just as confusing? perhaps, although I do have better responses from clients as to what they think this means rather than the look of a deer in the path of an oncoming car.  </p>
<p>It seems difficult enough saying I am a hypnotherapist &#8211; that has produced fear in more clients than i would have expected.</p>
<p>I refer to my self as a facilitator, then include the comment “how can I be of assistance to you?</p>
<p>I ‘calibrate’ the response I receive and will ‘match &amp; mirror’ to be in ‘rapport’</p>
<p>So we can set up a linguistics class to teach perspective clients how to understanding NLP practitioner.  </p>
<p>Or perhaps even how to understand you physician of choice. </p>
<p>Hmm, perhaps not, after all, the physician needs to offer the impression that he is well educated by the use of fancy words. ‘I believe you may either have IBS or acid reflux’  </p>
<p>I am glad back in the days I just had the stomach flu and not food poisoning {Mom?}</p>
<p>Are we not taught to embed uninteligable comands into their sub conscious mind?</p>
<p>Perhaps not, we do want our clients to understand what we are doing, at least consciously, </p>
<p>Right?</p>
<p>Still having lunch on this one while I read a book on Quantum Mechanics to find out “Who did it”</p>
<p>The boson, the lepton,  the quark or that Higgs guy they are still looking for.</p>
<p>Guess I am just a mis-matcher after all</p>
<p>‘Sacred Reality’</p>
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